20:43Is it hard for you to find funding for some of these projects? Like, I assume POW was self-funded?
20:48So POW was funded largely by a grant from an organization called Pop Culture Collaborative, specifically a grant called the Becoming America Fund.
20:59And I feel really, you're right in that, yeah, like, making stuff is expensive.
21:05Um, that's, uh, one of the reasons that we work with Netflix on things is they have money.
21:54And then because that was a success and did well in festivals and got shared a lot online, that allowed, um, me to reach out to comedy central for the second short, which was the, um, sports mascot one.
22:06And, um, they paid to fund that.
22:09And then because both of those were successful, that allowed us to get, um, our first grant from pop culture collaborative to fund sort of the next three episodes of that.
22:18And then, um, you know, those all did well and, you know, made news headlines and stuff.