Point Blank Music College

And was that just a case of you applying to companies or you headhunted in the sense that someone knew you were available? How did that come about?

Well, I mean, one of the places where I teach, which is called the Point Blank Music School, I mean, I saw an advert online and it was like, you know, Point Blank Music School are looking for a web designer and And I wasn't a web designer, but I was like, Point Blank Music School, what is that? So I went onto their website, and it was like, wow, what a fantastic organisation.

When I came into the music industry, such a place didn't exist.

So I was like, wow, look at all these classes they do, and it's like...