Plutarch

He's in a wheelchair.

Plutarch's there.

There's been lots of riots in seven different districts.

They don't know what Peeta's status is.

Peeta was supposed to live.

So she storms out.

And Plutarch's idea is like, let's remind her who the real enemy is.

Let her go see what the Capitol did to District 12.

great.

Um, so finally Plutarch gets close enough to him that they're able to talk a little bit and he tells Hamish that Lenora Dove was never released from custody.

So obviously he starts to freak out even more, like thinking about what could have happened to her.

And we get this really interesting quote, confined, starved, tortured, raped, murdered, when he's thinking about possibly what could have happened to her.

Steal it from me.

I don't care.

Maybe look at Plutarch book because I still want that.

But it's how he creates propaganda to influence the career districts or something.

Mm-hmm.

So the other person we're thinking it could be is more about Plutarch and like what it's like to be a games maker.

I don't even know who Plutarch is, man.

He was originally Philip Seymour Hoffman in the first trilogy.

Ah.

What's your formal predictsch?

Mm.

I, I would enjoy a Plutarch I think, even though I love Finnick.

So next let's look at this cast.

Uh, returning we have Jennifer Lawrence as Katniss, Josh Hutcherson as Peeta, Liam Hemsworth as Gale, Woody Harrelson as Haymitch, Donald Sutherland as President Snow, Philip Seymour Hoffman as Plutarch, Sam Claflin as Finnick, Elizabeth Banks as Effie, Jeffrey Wright as Beetee, and Stanley Tucci as Caesar Flickerman.

We get a few new cast members: Julianne Moore as President Coin, Mahershala Ali as Boggs, Natalie Dormer as Cressida, Effie Rah as Messalla, Elden Henson as Pollux, and Wes Chatham as Castor.

So what are your thoughts here about the cast?

But, um, I was worried going into this, 'cause I haven't watched it in a while, and I couldn't remember how they handled that.

Yeah, that's, that's fair.

I remember, uh, uh, a little bit of that too, especially when Haymitch comes and, uh, reads the letter that Plutarch's supposed to be in that scene, but they had to finagle that.

So it's like-

Heave- Heavensbee.

Plu- Plu- Plutarch.

Plutarch? Yeah, Plutarch.

I think.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm

... obviously there were definitely more, because then you get families such as, uh, Plutarch, heavens be.

Plutarch, yeah.

And his great ancestor was also-

A rebel

Right.

And how, um-

Yeah.

Like a scene of Plutarch, like receiving the footage and being like, okay, here's how we're going to spin it.

Like without even Haymitch in the room, like I want to know how this is going out live, you know?

yeah

Does the fact that a bunch of people tried before Katniss justify using Katniss to achieve the goal?

I mean, if we're talking about Plutarch in this case, I think he-

All of them, Plutarch, Coin, Haymitch, you know, with his bit of role in it.

I would actually...

I, I don't know.

I think it comes...

I think I would hinge the entire answer that anyone were to give based on their belief of what you do with evil.

Well, that goes back to Plutarch, and he is accepting of the fact that he's sacrificed his moral compass entirely to try to progress the revolution.