Platonic Academy

In a sense, you actually need some structure.

And so Plato's Academy is one of these things that gets used as a kind of template, you might say, for a lot of these early Humboldtians.

So there's a kind of back-to-Plato thing that's going on there as well, I have to say.

So Aristotle, you might say, is being rejected.

the founder is a chap called Zeno, who was originally from, he studied with a number of other philosophers already at work in Athens.

He spent time in Plato's Academy, but eventually starts to develop his own philosophy.

So Zeno's the founder and he sets things up in Athens.

So we've got this school of philosophy gathering in the center of Athens at this painted stoa.

Grant says, in the Humanitas, upon which Cicero insisted in a series of wonderfully well-written treatises on moral themes.

Shunning dogma, in accordance with the views of the contemporary Athens Academy, these essays adopted Greek philosophy to Roman life, and both exemplified and demanded an enlightenment of mind and character, a recognition not only of one's own unique personality, but also of the personality of others.

This was the most civilized ideal for practical purposes of living that the world had ever seen.

It has deeply influenced Western thought from his time to our own.

And these are kind of similar to the Arabic Islamic concept of the genie.

Drawing most likely from the 5th century Neoplatonist and successor to the Athenian Platonic Academy, Proclus, the 5th century Christian theologian Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite elaborates an extremely similar hierarchical system of spiritual beings, which he effectively imported into Christianity.

Pseudo-Dionysus' hierarchy is used in Christian sacramental theology, as well as Christian-influenced systems of theurgy outside of official ecclesiastical bounds.

Let's compare the two.

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understanding truth through a dialogue, but obviously Plato taught Aristotle and Plato's Academy had a similar sort of method as well.

But what I find about your point, which is quite interesting is that we're talking to machines and trying to understand something through them by talking.

And the reason why I believe that generative AI has become more popular than anything else ever before.

Yeah.

You're, yeah, you're, you're talking about Plato's Academy.

And so this is 2,400 years ago.

And over the words of his Academy on the door, it said, let no one ignorant of geometry enter.