Piping and instrumentation diagram

They don't know your process and your chemistry.

There's very little publicly available data sets or even P&IDs.

And so it makes it, these large language models are very broad in their understanding of chemical processes.

And so for us, what we've seen is that there has to be a much larger lift on the manufacturing side around contextualizing your data And getting your process knowledge into, one, it might just be inside some people's heads.

And so I guess like as you're walking me through, like I said, I have like a couple of ideas.

I'm assuming that you can infer some of this or maybe a lot of this from P&IDs, right? Like let's say in the tank example or in a chemical plant setting, you should technically have the relationships via the piping diagrams and the flows that would tell you whether that's flow meter, pump, tank, or multiple systems interacting between themselves.

So you could, in theory, ingest that context and that layer or use that to build the context for the graph.

Gotcha.

And that was the goal because I've been working with 3D in the industry for 20 years now and it still surprises me how few people actually use 3D.

in their normal day-to-day job without something like Ace, right? People wait around in documents and P&IDs, and then if they need something 3D, they probably go and ask the 3D guy to pull up a Navisworks model, and then, can you do a screenshot of this for me? So actually, it was a bit surprising to me when we started and rolled this out to see certain user groups that weren't familiar with 3D.

It was sort of adding that extra degree of freedom made them a bit sort of uneasy.

And that also ties back to the user experience, because we then had to make sure that navigating in 3D is really intuitive and easy because it's so new to people.

It's the

same.

Because not only do we have a new 3D viewer, we also have a 2D viewer where you can put up all your P&IDs or PFDs and it's not one-on-one page.

you just add them one by the other.

Yeah, well, the first iteration was the open source design, which actually I got to credit Graywolf.

A lot of people did really well because Graywolf kind of was a leader in terms of, you know, open sourcing some of these process flow diagrams and P&IDs.

And so like...

he actually created this design called the MK4.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I have the P&IDs for that tank right there.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

It's still something that should be valued in the workplace.

Yeah, like even during this week, we've had to finalise some P&IDs for a job.

So we thought, should we do this online or do it in the rooms? We all made a decision.

No, we'll do it in the room.

We'll print the P&IDs out.

We'll hand sketch them up.

We had two senior engineers and myself and a graduate engineer in the room, all process engineers, and she learnt so much, the graduate, from just sitting in the room listening to how we were debating and discussing how these P90s would fit together and how this plant was going to all start working.

Yeah, so