Pierre Waché

So it's still early in the reg cycle to say, like, the second driver curse is over.

I could see that still happening, 'cause Pierre, Pierre Wache is still there, right? The designer.

That's his name, I think.

Mm-hmm.

Surely they promised him, like, next year you'll have a car to fight for, at least for victories, and maybe for a world title.

Pressure is on there for Pierre Wache.

Like, when he's not capable of building a car next year that gives Max the opportunity to fight for victories, I think he's the next who has to go.

Because that's how it works at Red Bull in the end.