Pierluigi Collina

But in all honesty, he's a wily manager who should really get a free pass.

He was literally a Pierluigi Collina decision away from getting Everton into the Champions League.

Of course, Duncan Ferguson scoring a very, very legitimate header that should have counted, but did not.

But let's go back to this game.

Getting our names called is an incredible feeling.

Having Pierluigi Collina standing in front of a room full of the, the best referees in the world, uh, a- and hear our names called, it's something, um, uh, tough to, tough to beat.

Can I just point out how ironic it is, though, that the s- like the match official, um, is not very time sensitive outside of the game? [laughs]

You have, you have to admit your strengths and weaknesses.

Like you've talked about the, the history, uh, both on the field and off the field for those two countries i- is immense, and the, it's one of the most intense rivalries, uh, in the sport.

So, uh, getting our names called is an incredible feeling.

Having, uh, Pierluigi Collina standing in front of a room full of the, the best referees in the world, uh, a- and hear our names called, it's something, um, uh, tough to, tough to beat.

But it, it, it showed that for such an important match that, that FIFA entrusted us, uh, with, with that game.