Phoenix Lights

Now, on the evening of March 13, 1997, the skies over the American Southwest hosted what is arguably the most widely witnessed, thoroughly documented, and fiercely debated UFO sighting in history.

Known universally as the Phoenix Lights, the event was not a fleeting, ambiguous streak in the sky.

Oh, no.

It was a massive, slow-moving aerial anomaly observed by thousands of people, from ordinary citizens and local police to commercial airline pilots and the city governor of Arizona.

Now, to understand why the Phoenix Lights remain a cornerstone of modern ufology, one must untangle the timeline.

The event was actually composed of two distinct waves of sightings that occurred hours apart.

The conflation of these two events, one a silent physical craft, the other a series of military flares, created a perfect storm of government denial and public outrage that endures to this day.

Instead, they appeared to hang in the air, glowing intensely before winking out one by one.

Um, so, uh, just to fast forward, uh, up to 2019.

So my dad sends me this article that he, that he found, he was watching TV and this popped up, um, about an incident called the Phoenix lights.

And, um, the depiction of one of the ships that was seen was a triangular shaped ship.

And there's a, there's a, in the article, there's like a, um, you know, a drawing basically in the artist's rendition exactly and uh he sent that to me and i was like oh that looks exactly like what i saw that night and um turns out the phoenix lights happened in 1997 the same year so i don't know uh

wait where were you that wasn't was it in phoenix or here oh we were here in california yeah here in

california but it was the same year that that the phoenix light um event happened so uh was there a connection maybe maybe not it was the same around the same time i

there's UFO cases.

You know, the Phoenix Lights is probably one of the most famous ones.

I remember that night, the center was being just flooded with calls from all over the metro area and all over the valley.

And it was just an incredible night.

nice point where we're like, hang on a minute, we can now really push forward.

But yeah, I think I look back at that, the Jamaica Inn, the Phoenix Lights and Bobbin Beast, those three episodes is when the penny dropped about we can do this.

We can really research and really get our teeth into this and make a podcast.

Yeah, because like

I mean, obviously, Roswell happened.

You have the Phoenix Lights who have.

virginia brazil when the ufo crashed and uh people saw a little alien or some type of life form and everybody who like was in contact with the life form end up like getting sick or something so you have all these weird things you have the zimbabwe zimbabwe i can't talk today zimbabwe african school that had some type of telepathy interaction with these other beings and that's also like i think a common theme to telepathy things when you look at The fact that a lot of people now believe like we are some way consciously connected and that telepathy is a real thing.

Everything from telepathy tapes to Diane Hennessey Powell, the doctor from Harvard, from the telepathy tapes who also studied like the savant syndrome and all these things like there's something there about humans, about reality that we're we don't understand and having a lot of creative people on the show.

But yeah, this is not a new thing, right? This has been talked about a bit more.

So some of the craft shapes that he was talking about, tic-tacs, we know that, boomerangs, like the Phoenix Lights.

Then we got eggs, we got the classic disc, then a crescent.

And he also describes one that looks like a boot heel.