Philip B. Taub

And that's the really that's the goal they're trying to achieve.

Yeah, you've alluded to this, and we've talked about this subject before with other veteran support folks, including Phil Taub with Swim With a Mission, which is a an organization here that helps veterans.

Talk a little bit about the difficulty that veterans have going back into jobs.

I mean, I know some of it is wanting to have a mission, you know, and that sense of purpose that's different when you come back.

And, uh, after, afterwards, the whole healing process, I was in Manchester.

And, uh, that's when I really became really good friends with, uh, Phil Taub and Andy and, uh, and, uh, all, all the, all the guys up there and their wives and, you know, we've been tight ever since.

I didn't know that's how it happened, how you, you forged that relationship with them.

Okay.