Okay.

And, uh, I knew I didn't have much of a chance of getting a job collecting dinosaurs, because, uh, there was only about half a dozen jobs in the entire world where anybody got paid to do research on dinosaur collections and, and research, uh, at that time.

Uh, so the chances were not very good that I was gonna get a job.

However, um, as luck had it, uh, it was an expanding world, and, um, the Provincial Museum of Alberta in Edmonton decided that, uh, they wanted to have somebody who worked on dinosaurs.

And, um, I was, uh, still at McGill University in Montreal when I applied for the job, but what happened is that, uh, the, uh, competition was better qualified than I was.

They already had their PhDs and so on.

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I would say that the, if you look at the big questions of dinosaur mysteries, we'll, we'll say.

Yet when they met there, word quickly spread that they were carrying something far more explosive than anything on the program.

In the 1960s and 70s, the idea came out that maybe dinosaurs were warm-blooded.

Not all dinosaurs, but certainly a lot of them.

And if they were warm-blooded, then the small ones would need some kind of insulation on their body.

If dinosaurs, in fact, were ancestral to birds, it makes sense that feathers is the kind of insulation that would be on their body.

However, a lot of people said, we can't imagine a robin coming from a Tyrannosaurus rex.

You know, unless you find feathers on a dinosaur fossil, I'm never going to believe you.

He invited Philip to see the specimen in Beijing.

Yet when they met there, word quickly spread that they were carrying something far more explosive than anything on the program.

In the nineteen sixties and seventies, the idea came out that maybe dinosaurs were warm-blooded.

Not all dinosaurs, but certainly a lot of them.

And if they were warm-blooded, then the small ones would need some kind of insulation on their body.

If dinosaurs, in fact, were ancestral to birds, it makes sense that feathers is the kind of insulation that would be on their body.

However, a lot of people said, "We can't imagine a, a robin coming from a Tyrannosaurus rex.

You know, unless you find feathers on a dinosaur fossil, I'm never gonna believe you."

He invited Philip to see the specimen in Beijing.