It's just so fascinating and it's common.

This is a within the same family case.

The father's older brother was named Pho.

Pho is the person who the mother and father both apparently were visited by in their dreams.

Now, I want to be very clear.

When Ian got involved with this case, the parents, the mother and father here, were already dead.

So this is what he was told from multiple sources that they had said occurred before Ting, their son, was born.

Okay, so just pausing for a second, like who was Buakai? Because it's hard for me to believe that he was like the beloved town science teacher if he was shot in the head.

It's just so fascinating and it's common.

This is a within the same family case.

The father's older brother was named Pho.

Pho is the person who the mother and father both apparently were visited by in their dreams.

Now, I want to be very clear.

When Ian got involved with this case, the parents, the mother and father here, were already dead.

So this is what he was told from multiple sources that they had said occurred before Ting, their son, was born.

Okay, so just pausing for a second, like who was Buakai? Because it's hard for me to believe that he was like the beloved town science teacher if he was shot in the head.

Like, how do we do that?

If we want our relationship with mortality to have beneficial consequences for us, if we're looking for more satisfaction in our lives, in our relationships, in our wellbeing, the onus is on us to do some hard work.

The default path is a fear and denial path, right? I mean, it's obviously more nuanced than this, but evolutionarily speaking, there's a reason you and I are here today is that when our ancestors went out hunting and they heard a scary noise come out of a cave, they didn't go, let's go in, right? They kind of said, wait, wait, we don't know.

What is what's that? We come from a good, fearful, careful stock.

And that sometimes works for us.

But I think in this context, it's backfired.

And we have to push through that.

What would you advise people to do just for five minutes a week, just to deepen their death reflection, stop avoiding it, and gain the wisdom that you've documented in the lab? What should we do?

Now, is there any way that he could have found out this information in another way?

I mean, it's obviously, I mean, and we're all in a healthy manner skeptical here at DOPS too, but the thing that's really interesting about the Ryan Hammons case, one of the reasons I think it's one of the strongest cases, not saying that this is a case of reincarnation, I can't claim that, but one piece of evidence that I've already mentioned, which falls into the category of private knowledge, which is that Ryan Hammons insisted that he had died at the age of 61.

And at that when this started happening, when this case was being investigated, all signs suggested that Marty Martin was actually 58 when he died, maybe 59.

And Ryan never said, oh, no, OK, you're right.

I got that wrong.

He kept saying it was 61.

And it was years after that claim had been made that Jim Tucker had actually uncovered marty martin's official birth certificate and the truth was that marty martin died at the age of 61. in fact there's even records of marty martin's surviving family saying we didn't know that he was 61 we thought he was 58 59 whatever he'd been saying one of the other reasons i think ryan hammonds is a strong case, simply meaning difficult to explain naturally or easily, is there was a period of time where his case started getting a little bit of attention and his family was paid to fly out to Hollywood by a film crew to kind of tell his story.

Explain what that might say.

Xenoglossy means an actual identified language, and in their database, there are 40 cases of young kids speaking a language they've never been taught, and the kids in these cases could just be using random words or full-on sentences.

sentences.There was an interesting case where there was a boy who claimed to be Japanese in his past life, and any time the boy fell, like at the park or at home, would say a word that they didn't understand.

And it turns out they found out that he was saying the Japanese word for ouch.

And the other thing this one boy did that was really interesting, so the parents, they were American, and they would say sukiyaki, the Japanese food sukiyaki.

But apparently that's not how you say it in Japanese.

You say sukiyaki.

And the kid corrected their pronunciation as to how you say that, which is remarkable to me, because who in the world would know that?

It's something deeply personal, like a phobia or a skill, a way of behaving, even a vice.

Totaling over 200 variables that researchers look into for every case.

Almost always you're going to find this.

The tabled... statements and recognitions, behaviors of the child under investigation.

So the person, in this case, we're looking at Dizna, she started talking early, about two and a half, three.

The first thing she started talking about was, I'm not from here, that she lived in this village, Widowa.

Had a son, Mahataya.

Son had a woman.

It's something deeply personal, like a phobia or skill, a way of

And coming onto your area of research specialism and, you know, going back to the work that Ian Stevenson did, can you just talk a little bit about the methodology that you use to sort of interrogate and investigate these past life claims and kind of, you know, what the scale of that research is at the moment?

Absolutely.

A-and it is changing.

Myself and my colleague, Marietta Pelevanova, we're taking it in a new direction, so I'll, I'll, I'll start historically, and I'll tell you what we're doing now.

So historically, the bulk of this work has been case study approach, right? So, um, it is not traditional research in the sense of, like, clinical trials.

You can't, you can't create a control condition compared to making people randomly have a past life memory if, or whatever it appears they're having, or a near-death experience, right? We can't kill people.

Uh, so all of this is case study and retrospective in nature.

So can you just explain what that is and kind of some of the cases that illustrate this?