If you are under great distress, you're more likely to just say anything to get it to stop.

yet that's that's a question that people have not asked enough in the past seventeen years and especially since the programs become public knowledge you cannot put somebody under aggressive interrogation unless you understand details of their background because you do not know a when they're lying and be you can't box them let me give you a specific example i know you have traveled to eight places eight al-qaeda locations in the past two years You don't know as an al-Qaeda prisoner that I know that.

I'm going to ask an open question.

Can you talk about your activities over the past two years? Let's say you list every one of those locations.

I'm going to start to say that's interesting.

Maybe the word we used was compliant.

Not that they're truthful, but they're compliant.

focused on this too much or it plays too much of a role in the public's understanding of what went on?