So tell the audience a little bit about that before we dig into the questions for today.

Yeah, I was very fortunate.

NASA was a great organization, and they gave me lots of opportunities to move around within and do a variety of different things.

And a piece of that was I was able to kind of redefine myself instead of just narrowly thinking of myself as a particular type of engineer and think of myself more as a problem solver.

And I started out early on as being a payloads engineer, really trying testing and integrating the different types of experiments and satellites and payloads and things that went into the shuttle bay to make sure that they work before they got up on orbit.

And then we moved into more working on the International Space Station.

So I helped with assembly and test of that before it went up into orbit.

So what's an example of that? What are some things that you discovered that were emerging from the experience?