Phil Lyman

And then one thing he got he got upset with me for he like DM me after the fact, but I didn't see it initially.

Because when I asked him about his connection to Phil Lyman, Every time I asked him a question, he filibustered.

So he would spend like 20 minutes answering a very direct question.

And I didn't catch the first time that he said something to the effect of like, I may have seen him at like a family function, like at a wedding or something like that.

And like, I honestly, I was, I was zoning out because he was, he just filled up with so much.

He talked, he talked so long.

And so I was like, so you don't know Phil Lyman? He's like, no.

And when I was editing it, I saw that he gave a different answer the first time I asked him.

But the Justice Department's investigating Lieutenant Governor Deidre Henderson over Utah's refusal to provide the federal government with an unredacted version of the state's voter roll data.

Now, Phil Lyman, who ran for governor against the Cox administration, is all for this.

He wants them to give up all of their information to the DOJ.

But like Mara says, the question is, If it were a different president asking, would you say hell no? If it were Joe Biden or

On her show, Owens has speculated that dozens of people and organizations had some connection to Kirk's killing.

Phil Lyman is one of them.

He's a former Republican Utah state representative who was at the

event.

Conspiracists call him a fake ear witness.

The

gubernatorial candidate, Phil Lyman, was a bit, in my opinion, too involved in the investigation of who assassinated Charlie Kirk.

Lyman has a lot of family in a neighborhood near UVU, something Owens fixated on.

There's a lot of hesitancy in this, in this version of the Tylers.

You remember when he's walking down the street making his way into campus, and he walks down the road, um, before he turns left to go towards Phil Lyman's aunt's house.

He walks down the-- He's walking down a road, I think it's called, um, eight hundred or something.

But a car pulls up next to him and slows down and, and then drives off.

This is a man that they're telling us left his car with-- or left his house that morning with murder on his mind.

He finally has everything in his possession and he's just standing around? Well, why is he just standing around? Why is he standing around on the street? Then he turns left, he walks down another road.

He crosses in front of Phil Lyman's aunt's house, and when you see the zoomed out footage, he stops at the end of their driveway and he's just standing around.

He just stops again.