Phebe Novakovic

The way that we kind of highlight how ridiculous the amount of money involved in the arms trade is in the book, or just one of the examples, is the amount that CEOs and arms trade executives actually make.

I would say probably...

The most outrageous example might be Phoebe Novakovich, who is the CEO of General Dynamics, one of the biggest arms companies in the world, a US-based arms company.

And they actually provided... a lot of the weaponry, specifically the bombs that have been used throughout Yemen and Gaza.

But at one shareholder meeting, she was asked by a veteran activist whether she feels okay about selling arms to the Saudis while they're being used indiscriminately on civilians.