Petter chamor

So me'melah, once, uh, you bring it on the mizbeach, so me'melah, you have to give it to a kohen as well.

But Tosafot says that that's not gonna apply by peter chamor because peter chamor is not brought on the mizbeach, meaning the whole idea is that once we're determining that you gotta bring it on the mizbeach, well, then you gotta give it to a kohen as well.

Peter chamor is not brought on it, it's a bechor behayma tameh.

It's not, not brought on the mizbeach.

So then, uh, how can we follow the rov that it's in Metanos to take away the chazakah that the baalim has and to make you give it to the kohen? There's nothing forcing our hand to, uh, to do that.

So that's Tosafot's kasha, that this all makes sense if you're gonna talk about a behayma tahora, where you're gonna say, "Ah, I gotta be machmir to bring it on the mizbeach, uh, so I'll bring it on the mizbeach." And once I bring it on the mizbeach, so then, uh, I, I have to give it to a kohen because y-you, you, you're gonna-- you, you have to be consistent in terms of calling it a bechor.

But if there's no mizbeach in the picture because it's a, it's a peter chamor, so then you don't have to say that.

So then in the case of the cam-- of the chamor, we should say that, uh, that you don't have to give it to a kohen.

If a cow gave birth to what looks like a donkey, or a donkey gave birth to something which now looks like a horse, there is no din of b'chor.

Since two different psukim say peter chamor, we learn that a chamor must give birth to something that looks like a chamor, otherwise it does not have kedushas b'chor.

The Gemara.

The Gemara Darshan is a different psukim to establish the m'chor for the halacha in the Mishnah.

That's where our nechem can learn, our nechem can learn the manah is just kaf.

So Gemara says, "Hakam," there's a din pidyon from peter chamor, na'aneh v'bichor bema'at me'ah.

Omre Qimina, shalti y'zeh rabah rabba, b'mei saba raba, b'mei s'meshech gadol.

Maadin she'am peter chamor, peter chamor is chayav pidyon.

But, uh, peter, sus and gamal na'ar.

Am aleh, izér et hakasev yifde od.

The same bechor keves and bechor ez, lo achai bechor until they're darbai le'imom.

So what now? Frankly, Gemara says Rab Yehuda, Agli learns the ptur of Vlad, ain derabbanan limus patum bechor, bechor.

Halacha L'Maaseh, you have to separate out another sheep.

Where does Rabbi Eliezer learn this? From the fact that the pasuk equates Pidyon Peter Chamor with Pidyon Haben.

The same way that if I set aside money for the redemption of my firstborn son and I lose the money, I have to replace the money.

You have to replace the sheep as well.

Pidyon Haben achar shloshim yom.

Redemption of firstborn son takes place after thirty days, right when the baby is thirty days old.

Pidyon peter chamor la'alter.

And similarly again, redemption of firstborn donkey should be done immediately.

Not a coin.

Who had ten Asara, Safik, Pitcher, Chalmorem.

questionable whether each one of these was really the firstborn donkey or not.

Mafer Shalei, and so this is a person, do exactly what we said in the next verse.