Peter Zezel

Doug Gilmour.

Peter Zezel.

Lots.

Well, I was very lucky, yeah.

I mean, Kipper, you especially had it with the New York Rangers.

We think, I know it's a long time ago, but Billy Berg and Mark Osborne and the late Peter Zezel and that.

So Justin, uh, the, um, the jury is out on that like a lot of other things, but they definitely have had to get a more consistent and different makeup depth-wise, and let's hope this is money well spent, and let's hope that's the case.

I'm gonna dig into, uh, you know, y- the time you were general manager, especially with the Toronto Maple Leafs, and, uh, this ongoing philosophy in, in our game of hockey on, uh, a rookie coming in or the expectations of a rookie and old school protecting him.

1988.

1988.That's right when Peter Zezel came to town, didn't he?

That's why I came back.

Yeah.

I love him.

Once they put Peter Zezel on the wing-

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Right.

And then when I went to St. Louis, I ended up playing with Peter Zezel, who's passed away a few years ago.

Actually, Peter was a talented center that could play both sides of the ice.

And he.