Peter Salisbury

But again, the Houthis don't necessarily listen.

I had a colleague who covered Yemen for us, Peter Salisbury, who always had, I thought, the best formulation on Iran-Houthi relations, which was that Iran has, often with the Houthis, it has its foot on the accelerator.

It doesn't necessarily have its foot on the brake.

So, let's double back for a moment here, because I am curious to understand what effect this war, and let's talk more specifically about the war since Operation Epic Fury.