Peter Manso

So that was one breakthrough.

Another was we heard that the late journalist Peter Manso had done a series of interviews with Roy Cohn.

in 1980 and 81 in preparation for an article he was doing for Penthouse magazine.

That's where it eventually appeared.

And I'm not effeminate.

So that was his argument.

He actually told Peter Manso in one of these long-winded interviews that Manso conducted with him in 1980 and 81.

He got Roy to admit that, no, he's not a gay man.

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lots going on here it's kind of you know my things are messy um daniel brazil hi peter jackie's book faster done with peter manso's hands down the best formula one book i've ever read wondering if you've ever read it and if you have any other fantastic motoring books to recommend Yeah, I loved that book when it came out.

I've got a copy here.

I've got one of the original copies.

It was on lovely paper as well.

And I got to know Peter Manso.

I think he's now passed away, but we were working on a...

I got to know him and chatted to him.

So that was his argument.

He actually told Peter Manso, you know, in one of these long-winded interviews that Manso conducted with him in 1980 and 81, he got Roy to admit that, no, he's not a gay man, but, yeah, he's a heterosexual man who sometimes has sex with men.

So...

You know, Roy came of age in the early 50s as a young man in his 20s.

So that was one breakthrough.

Another was we heard that the late journalist Peter Manso had done a series of interviews with Roy Cohn.

in 1980 and 81 in preparation for an article he was doing for Penthouse magazine.

That's where it eventually appeared.

And according to witnesses, he was quite emotional.

Yes, well, we report that Peter Manso, this reporter who was a friend of both men, attended the memorial service.

And according to Manso, he saw Donald Trump sitting at the back weeping at one point in the memorial service.

That's an extraordinary story.

He doesn't give a eulogy, but he sits at the back of the room.

And Peter Manso, the late journalist who knew both men, claims that he observed Donald Trump weeping.

Wow.

I was surprised by this.

And then, you know, we dug around.

We found up in Provincetown, Massachusetts, the widow of a journalist named Peter Manso, who had done in 1980 and 81 a Penthouse magazine interview of Roy Cohn.

But he had sat Roy down at great lengths.

and tape recorded these interviews and created transcripts.