Peter Levenda

Like w- you know, many people watching this know about, um, Project Paperclip and the scientists and stuff like that, but these, like, more difficult to trace ties without shiny names and, like, really simple, uh, nutshelled conspiracy theories around them, like, th- it, they're harder to appreciate, but the implications of them are much deeper, I think, because it, it again starts to bring all these topics back up, like, you know, forbidden science and, uh, you know, alternate technologies and the esoteric and all the stuff is, like, very central to a lot of the, of what these groups were doing.

And, you know, people like Peter Levenda have attempted to uncover a lot of this stuff, and admittedly, I need to do more of a deep dive into that segment of his work because I know he's written whole books on it.

Um, but you've, you've gone into this research as well.

What, what have you found? Like, is there truth, do you think, to this post-World War II sort of, you know, uh, invisible f- f- fiefdom of, like, power and influence that sort of either disperses itself into Amer- the American system, or does it maybe create its own completely hidden power system under, you know, many, many different names? Like, what have you found there?

Yeah.

And, uh, I... people always say like, I seem to read a lot, but the truth is I really struggle to read and wherever I can, if there's a video form or, or some other thing, I'll do it.

So I was watching this and he, he kept-- he talked about this company called the World Commerce Corporation, which my ears went up because I was like, "I've heard this company before." I'd heard it in Peter Levenda's, Sinister Forces, Joseph Farrell talked about it.

In fact, in every book that's trying to understand what happened with the Nazis, it gets mentioned, but never in a lot of detail.

And if you want more on that, I got a lot of this informa- like I had-- it took me a long time to wrap my head around this, and I'd be, I'd be lying to you if I said I fully get it.

I understand more every day, but, uh, if you check out Peter Levenda's books, I always recommend his work.

He's been doing a lot of interviews lately.

I can't land the guy for an interview, probably 'cause I don't, I don't think he's gonna like the way, what, uh, the way I approach this.

so much and so much so that for me, I, I, I tend to get into this mental mode where I, where I push the nuts and bolts aside a little bit, because it's, it's really easy to focus on that stuff because there is so much there, but I, one of the things that intrigues me as sort of like a Venn diagram between these two things is this, what we'd call now like the early modern sightings, you like the late 1940s into the fifties, it seems to be the start of something new.

Like it seems to be the start of a new kind of, of sighting of, of something beyond a normal of, of something that seems technological and, And there are multiple reasons for why that could be, right? Like people like Peter Levenda, for instance, have done a very huge amount of research into the possibility that there could have been, you know, there could have been like a whole other branch of technology that came out of like Nazi Germany or something like that, that was kind of secreted into the Western...

That's right.

You know, under the Western military purview, not just with their scientists, but also actual technological acquisitions and things that were continued under the new, you know, this new post-war kind of military industrial complex.

This ties us into all the ascension mythologies." You know, Jacob's Ladder, which is in all these occult practices.

Uh, Peter Levenda wrote a whole book called The Stairway to Heaven, which is...

I highly recommend.

The kings would also consecrate with oil as well, right? And this is where you get into Egypti- right? We're going back to the Osiris stuff.

But at least, like you say, they are pushing for disclosure.

And there's one person in that team that I do really like or, you know, I still like is Peter Levenda.

Peter Lavenda, yeah, he's written the books with Tom DeLonge.

Yeah,

And maybe something did fly right in and nested in America's heartland.

All right, I just, I wanted to start out with that because I do think it's quite a good piece of writing and it is what Peter Lavenda does best, in my opinion.

Like it really, it is a very accurate, well-researched compilation of all of these different things that happened in 1947.

And I will say, in particular, the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Band Club poll is particularly impressive.