So after listening to all of that, what does success look like for this programme for M&S? And what matters most to get right?

No problem.

So, Peter Kennedy, Head of Agriculture and Fisheries at M&S.

One, I would just like to, well, just to start, look, we do a lot of different workshops across all of our different supply chains over the years, and we get very mixed feedback.

And if we do something like this here, generally we wouldn't get hardly any farmers, and there wouldn't be very many people standing up and talking about the positives.

So, look, we very much thank Ian, and we thank everyone around the hay bales and straw bales in terms of for here and for all the work and getting involved and getting stuck into.

And I think from an M&S perspective, we're most trusted retailer, good or bad, in terms of from our customers.

So that was that was really good insight, I thought, from people that have never been to grounds or before that it's not what they expected.

Okay, tell us about it.

Oh, well, state politics the first, I guess, immediately.

It's the decision of Cabinet Minister Paul Papalia to retire and, you know, 16 months into his term and he said because of a family member's illness and, you know, everyone I think can understand.

have to respect him for that.

That's the case.

But what it does, Jenny, it means he puts his resignation in, I think, on Friday, he said, to the Speaker.

And this means that there will have to be a by-election in his seat of Secret Harbour, south of Fremantle, between Rockingham and Mandurah.

And when he gave his speech, when she gave her speech, of course, in Canberra to the press, I was watching in text actually from the studio in here, she was making some incredible statements.

of

us.

Yeah, honestly.

And an absolute honour to be invited.

And when you approached me about it, I said, you know, I think I muted the idea.

It might be quite a nice thought for me for us to turn the tables, Rob.

Yeah.

So why worry about them?