I'm not really here as an academic, but more as a Samatha teacher who likes chanting.

So what I'm going to do initially is introduce a chant which I've kind of composed, which concerns...

I'll just share screen for some...

Where's it gone? Right, so it's primarily on the four Brahmaviharas of metta, loving kindness, goodwill, kindfulness i know brahman uses that term karuna compassion mudita empathetic or appreciative joy and and kind of guided my my past teacher lance cousins there's a suggestion that you can center these in different places in the body So for loving kindness, a kind of solar plexus, a kind of round here, where often energy comes from.

For compassion, the heart center.

For empathetic joy, mudita, a kind of throat area.

What are the opportunities by getting this right? [laughs]

So I think, so, so mine closure is the cessation of production followed by then a, uh, uh, changing the land use back to the post-mining land use opportunities that exist.

And so that, that process, which we can break down at various levels, but fundamentally means ceasing production, making safe, clearing up the mess and the land form, resolving the contamination issues, focusing on the post-mining land use, building and enabling that with social outreach and other elements.

And then for the mining companies to then relinquish the land or sell the land and step out, and then for the next land, next user to then utilize that land accordingly.

So, that process is kind of, fits into this generic term, mine closure.

Um, the upside is hugely positive.

There, there's, there are huge opportunities that exist around these, these assets and the land that they sit on.

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I

can't do shorthand.

They are all relevant.

They're all things that I hear about on a regular basis.

Maybe if we kind of start at the bottom and work our way back up a little bit.

If we talk about DVSA, one of the things that DVSA is I often sound as if I'm defending DVSA and I don't really mean it to be that, but there are some things that DVSA just can't do anything about because they are a separate agency and I looked after my department for transport, but I do feel they could help themselves sometimes by not getting themselves or not saying some of the things that they say or not really think about it before the...

I've got a good old saying, you should try to think about what you're going to say before you actually open your mouth and say it.

Yeah.