Peter E. Harrell

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Sugar Hill begins with the AI logo presented over a red glow and a dark background, and everything comes into focus and we see a voodoo ritual while Supernatural Voodoo Woman plays on the soundtrack.

People are gathered in a circle, drinking blood from a chicken's neck, playing with snakes, and dancing to the strains of the song performed by The Originals.

It's the Lawfare Podcast.

I'm contributing editor Peter Harrell.

For today's episode, as part of our Security Economics series, I'm joined by two law professors, Ashley Deeks of the University of Virginia and Kristen Eichinger of Harvard, to talk about a recent article they wrote on what they call the new command economy.

I think what we've seen recently is that the US government taking shares in companies in a way that actually creates conflicts for US government officials.

And be sure to check out our other shows, including Scaling Laws, Rational Security, Allies, The Aftermath, and Escalation, our latest Lawfare Presents podcast series about the war in Ukraine.

You can also find all of our written work at lawfaremedia.org.

This podcast is edited by Jen Patja with audio engineering by me, Peter Harrell.

Our theme song is from Alibi Music.

It's the Lawfare Podcast.

I'm senior editor Scott R. Anderson, joined by Rachel Alpert, a partner at Jenner & Block and former chief counsel for the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control, and Peter Harrell, a visiting scholar at Georgetown's Institute of International Economic Law and former senior director for international economics at the National Security Council.

I do wonder if a part of Trump's thinking is that this license and importation action might, in his mind, put some pressure on the Ukrainians to stop their military campaign against Russian refineries.

Today, we're discussing President Trump's deal for Russian diesel fuel and what it might mean for the war in Ukraine and beyond.

And then finally, overall, I think there's the very big picture of what will any of this do with respect to Ukraine, their, their position, their ability to pursue the war in the broader context and, and Russia's responses.

Well, we will have to keep our eyes peeled on those variables moving forward, but until then, we are out of time for today.

Rachel Alpert, Peter Harrell, thank you for joining us here today on the Lawfare Podcast.

This was great.

The power of sanctions derives from that ability to influence third parties, financial and commercial operators that, for compliance reasons, may decide to sever relations with the designated entity.

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Through the 1977 International Emergency Economics Powers Act, a legal challenge to A-slash-I sanctions would have amounted to a perfect test case for the communications exemption.

Per Berman, though the collective's disbanding would now make such a claim irrelevant.

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telephonic, or other personal communication.

In the Berman amendments to the 1977 International Emergency Economics Powers Act, a legal challenge to A-slash-I sanctions would have amounted to a perfect test case for the communications exemption.

And today we have Ethan Frisch, longtime friend of China Talks and co-founder of Burlap and Barrel, the finest purveyor of spices in the land.

Co-hosting today, as always, Peter Harrell.

Ethan, welcome to China Talk.

Thanks for

He's one of the funniest guys.

Peter Harrell, what a beauty.

So funny, really smart dude, good player, and just a beauty.

We had a lot of fun together on the road, man.

And I got way more games than you.

What are you coming after me for? And I'll beat the bag off you if you want me to.

But I was like, Peter Harrell is chirping me.

I'm like, we should be actually sticking up for each other.

So much is happening around the world with directing impacts on trade, including President Xi and President Trump's summit this week, the war with Iran, diesel prices, and so much more.

To get us up to speed, we're welcoming back Peter Harrell, a visiting scholar at the Georgetown Institute for International Economic Law and a former senior director for international economics at the White House under President Biden.

Chris Padilla is a senior advisor at Brunswick Group.

former Undersecretary of Commerce for International Trade, whose Substack and LinkedIn posts, along with Peter's, are much reads for trade nerds.

You can also find all of our written work at lawfaremedia.org.

This podcast is edited by Jen Patya with audio engineering by me, Peter Harrell.

Our theme song is from Alibi Music.

And as always, thank you for listening.