Penny

They don't know our business.

And I think when it relates back to the question you brought up with Penny, it's like, yes, things change, but you adjust.

You're not changing your whole style because of Penny.

I mean, it should be easier.

It should be.

Yeah.

I put Pennies, but technically it's J.C. Penney's.

J.C. Penney's.

But they go by both.

I mean, I was gonna say the other problem with registry for CAC is just, generally speaking, enough population again.

You can't build a Lincoln cent CAC G collection in your registry if they, they don't exist, right? If you, if the, if the coins don't actually, you know, exist in the market and in holders yet 'cause they haven't graded millions of coins.

And so, um, it, it is chicken and the egg.

And PCGS did a really good job kind of proactively...

Right.

So it can help you, you know, uh, sort through coins.

And by the way, you know, all these inexpensive coins, so we talked now about the expensive coins, but, but Buffalo nickels, Lincoln cents, you know, dated early Lincoln cents that are worth $20 are now worth 28, $30 on, on the wholesale market.

And not only are they worth up to 50% more, you know, dated Buffalo nickels and VF, XF, even VG, that, um, they're just...

I was kind of fortunate.

As, well, as a young kid, I collected, like, you know, pennies, Lincoln cents, and put them into the holders and stuff, but I wasn't a really collector.

You know, I just kinda did that casually when I was really young.

But in my mid-20s I was kinda lucky to get reintroduced into the hobby.

And, and looking for stuff for my collection.

I was collecting basically US coins.

Morgan dollars, Peace dollars, Standing Liberty quarters, Walking Liberty halves, um, Lincoln cents, Indian Head pennies, and I basically built complete or nearly complete collections of all those series.

But then, um...

I could use that.

For Benny versus the Penny.

We, we can use this, and we can-

It's, it's, it's-