Penelope Smith

Me and Mateo.

And so I just, I take through the meditations and once or twice a year I do becoming an animal, which is from Penelope Smith's training.

And it's an exercise for you kind of getting inside your animal's viewpoint to help understand what's going on with them.

And because that's a favorite of my students, it's part of the course as well.

So a good animal communicator will help an animal go through that.

I once interviewed Penelope Smith over and called the grandmother of interspecies communication.

Do you ever follow her work and techniques as well?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And even, like, my mentor's mentor, P- Penelope Smith, who's a grandmother of animal communicators, she's come back out of retirement.

One of the programs she's done is, uh, animal communication for children.

Oh, that's awesome.

[laughs]

Really?

Yeah, Penelope Smith.

Yeah.