PayPlug SAS

I think a lot of them talk about how they're processing over a trillion euros, uh, every single year with o- operating over in, in a hundred countries.

PayPlug works at a very different order of magnitude.

Mm-hmm.

Um, so when we look at that actual scale, right? Is that not the thing that decides the market, right? Do you have to chase the large scale, or can you go into the market, a domestic market, and actually say, "Well, we can operate on multiple levels," and that's really where the business is?

I, I could not say that scale doesn't matter.

Uh, but that's also one reason we do this, uh, business unit.

Uh, right now, if you look at PayPlug, we're a, uh, what we call a small scale player in our payment business, which is still, uh, more than ten billion euros.

That's, that's, um, the volume we process.