Pavel Tsatsouline

And then also from some of the brands I've worked with, like TRX and StrongFirst, kind of seeing that intersection of the mental and the physical in the real world with how we train coaches and athletes.

Love the fact you just brought up StrongFirst and Pavel Tsatsouline.

That's awesome.

Kettlebells.

You're getting the reps into the circuit.

It's kinda like Pavel Tsatsouline, the strength guy, it's like the grease the groove thing.

Okay, you do two pull-ups every time you pass through, through the door.

Mm-hmm.

It, it might still be around, or one might be able to, to still find this stuff, the...

This was in the age of, uh, message boards, and there was the Dragon Door message board where Pavel Tsatsouline, the, the kettlebell guy, Russian kettlebell guy, that's where he kind of made his first foray into the, the interwebs.

And man, I was, I was all over that thing, just advocating for this, uh, the, this change in dietary approaches, uh, particularly if people had, like, some gut or autoimmune issues.

And when you look back at that time, it's miraculous the shift you had.