Pauli Kiuru

I mean, I remember when-

when-I think it was the Finnish guys, like Pauli Kiuru or somebody, right? He showed up with this crazy thing at Hawaii, I think, called a heart rate monitor, and he was gonna do his whole race staring at his heart rate monitor, and that didn't work out so [laughs] well for him there, I guess, 'cause there's other factors, too.

But, uh, at the time, that was a big deal, and it was crazy space age stuff, you know? So, yeah.

Right.