Paul Winter

I got in the water with them and actually soon after that got hired by ABC TV station in LA to do the animal interview of the week for a show called Those Amazing Animals, which was on opposite 60 Minutes.

And the first place they sent me, of course, was to be with the orcas, because I had not long before it made a film for a Japanese producer, along with Paul Winter and Bernie Krause, both of whom were experimenting with the same kind of music and with animals as I was at the time in very different ways.

And I can get into that if you'd like.

So I got into the water with the orcas and realized... that this was not the way to proceed because even though I was there and I was smiling and I wasn't afraid and everybody in the world, nobody called them orcas in those days, they called them killer whales.

No, he played the piano.

Well, so one time it was winter solstice and we had on the radio, Paul Winter's winter solstice concert.

Paul Winter's a flutist, but he's also a composer.

And, and there was, so there was an orchestra playing and there was And in that piece, there's wolf howls.

So there were wolves howling.

So

there was this interaction.

So, you know, like Paul Winter and the wolves, except it was in real time.