Paul Smart

Yeah.

Owned at that time by Chas Mortimer Sr. Um, and, uh, so Chas actually, uh, Chas, Chas and I are very much the same age, but Paul Smart was o- one of the, one of the, um, the, the, the coaches, the tutors-

Yeah

... at the time.

And, um, I was lucky enough to be, um, tutored by Paul.

I mean, imagine being tutored by Paul Smart to-

Yeah

... to race a bike.