Mm-hmm.

And Braxton Berrios is a guy who was a special teams player.

So I don't...

I...

You know what? I think it was a very honest and open trial, you know? I mean, everyone went in with their eyes open, you know? Uh, uh, Harbaugh loves Odell.

Odell loves Harbaugh.

He wanted to come back and finish it up with the Giants.

Yeah

uh i gotta start here just because of the not just the asu connection but i mean the way he took over asu when he was here and now he's in new york what is it about cam scataboo that has has worked so well with that fan base

You guys, you know, I can't give you more insight about Cam Scadamore than you guys already know, right? Because you've had him longer than we've had him so far.

You know, he's an infectious personality.

He'll run through the wall and then he'll, you know, come back and run through the wall again.

He's been a good running back.

You know, he and Jackson dart.

had this connection and this synergy from day one.

Is this a situation where this is because Jackson Dart is down? They're running the ball that much? Or is it just more about Harbaugh loving to run the ball? That 22 personnel is

So is there anything you're hearing about what the Giants could potentially do if Jackson Dart is indeed out for a significant time of the season or the remainder of the season?

Well, we know what they will do is hand the ball to Jameis Winston.

I mean, he is the backup quarterback.

He's been here.

Look, I understand former Heisman Trophy winner, former number one pick in the draft.

You know, we can put that all aside.

You know, that's not who Jameis Winston is right now.

So if Dart is out for the season and he doesn't have his QB1, do you feel like that changes the way the media and fans will look at and judge John Harbaugh's first season as a Giants head coach?