Did you write this and then bring it in to your, your agent, your publisher, your editor, or did you, did you pitch it? And then what was, what was the pitch like? How do you pitch this, this book? Because there's a lot of very catty ways to talk about it, but in a fun way.

Oh, yeah.

No, I did not pitch it in the slightest.

Nobody had any idea I was working on it.

And it just was one of those things where I've always loved, you know, the Mission Impossible movies, the Jason Bourne films, uh, you know, anything with Jason Statham.

Also, the Dan Brown novels that, well, you know, which are just, you just get lost in them.

So I, um, but I always felt like, "Okay, that wasn't something I could ever tackle," you know, that degree of plotting and that degree of espionage.

Is that accurate? [laughs]