What was the inspiration behind that method?

Sure, sure.

So the inspiration behind that was that I was really trying to find a center point, a most important point where, you know, what's the real core root of what helps relationships to succeed? And what I found was that A lot of times – and I work with men and women, but more men on the coaching side.

When men are in a relationship that they would never leave – then that's when you can guarantee that there are tremendous amounts of problems to follow that.

So it hit me where I would see men put up with abuse in relationships.

And it sounds funny to say because a man is physically larger than a woman.

He's probably not being physically abused.

From your experience, what actually causes emotional disconnection?

What are some key moments that shaped you to become what you're doing now to teach men about masculinity and relationships?

Great question.

To put it bluntly, I grew up, I was a fat kid.

We were poor.

My parents raised me vegetarian in the 80s.

I had no say in the matter.

Once I got a little bit older, I started hitting the gym.

That is a truly quintessential masculine male in my view anyway, and knowing how to read your wife and doing both and becoming both at those times.

... to the, and I was able to avoid stuff I didn't like, but it wasn't fun being sick.

Yeah, it wasn't fun being sick.

Like, like, dude, all this shit.

Like, I'm trying to stay off social media.

My, my buddy is learning about water filters 'cause he's gonna sell water filters now, and he's telling me all the shit that's in the water.

I'm like, "Of course it's in there.

Of course." And you know what? And then you go on Instagram and YouTube, and you find out Oreo's making synthetic chocolate because now chocolate isn't fucking real.

And there were four of us on there.