Paul Renner

Partially.

So the thing is that the original Futura by Paul Renner was firstly issued by Bauer in Frankfurt in 1927 with a development time of three or four years beforehand.

And so the rights, publishing rights, were with Bauer.

Of course, the design rights, they will be next year then completely open.

And that's how it ended up there.

It remained a kind of a family company.

So Vivian Hartmann, she is the granddaughter of dear Regina Hartmann, who worked with Renner on Futura and made it actually into a functional type.

And yeah, so we, because I'm here in Barcelona, we have this kind of Spanish connection.