Paul Hull

I've a lot of good people, uh, who work for me and make my job a lot easier, uh, than, than it could be, because they're brilliant, brilliant people.

Whether you look at, uh, the technology and the innovation and research that we do through Duncan Lock, Nigel Redman looking after the coaches, Paul Hull, uh, in charge of the refereeing, uh, Nathan Martin, who's been like an institution looking after all, all the operations and logistics.

John Mitchell and Charlie Hayter heading up the Red Roses, and Steve here with the, uh, with the England Men's team.

So there, there are so many people, and I've probably missed naming a few of them, but it's just trying to make sure that you work across the programs.