Paul Frymer

I'm joined by Paul Frymer.

He's a great political scientist.

He's written a ton of really interesting, several articles and interesting books, including Uneasy Alliances, Race and Party Competition in America, Black and Blue, African Americans, Labor, Movement and the Decline of the Democratic Party, and the most recent one is Building an American Empire, the Era of Territorial and political expansion.

Optimistic.

So rare these times.

Paul Frymer, thanks for joining me.

Great to see you.

Take care.