Paul Fireman

But I don't know if we've actually talked about it, but my first job coming out of college was with Reebok.

And I worked for Paul Fireman, starting in sales.

And of course, you go way back with Paul and your relationship and partnership with the Greg Norman collection.

And I guess, Greg, at that time, I saw up close kind of your philosophy.

I wanted to make as much money as I possibly can out of the performance on the golf course.

But I also wanted to build equity in my own brand.

And one of my great mentors and teachers was Paul Fireman.

And Paul Fireman was an endorsed player for Reebok.