Paul Brereton

And some enterprising citizens, and I don't know who it is, I have an inkling, requested a transcript of their media chat from May this year to August this year.

So ostensibly to cover the period of time in which the Commissioner, Paul Brereton, resigned sort of amidst quite a significant amount of scandal and scrutiny over his links to defence.

It was a day ahead of a Senate Estimates hearing he was due to face.

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You're going to get a live reaction.

So Catherine Jones, who's the Secretary of the Attorney General's Department, sort of in real time, a lot of this happened in real time because Paul Brereton resigned so abruptly ahead of a Senate Estimates hearing that went ahead regardless.

And so Catherine Jones didn't receive notice of his resignation until an hour before she was due to face Senate estimates.