Where did your love for the outdoors begin? Was there a moment growing up that made you realize nature was always going to be a part of your life, especially after living in cities for as long as you did?

Well, growing up, I, I mean, I would, I would joke with people and say that I was either, I was half, you know, kinda country and half beach bum.

Uh, 'cause where I lived in Florida, I was just a couple miles over the Gulf, and I lived in the sticks pretty, you know, kinda out in the, in the rural, uh, of it.

And so I, I grew up, you know, playing out in nature, loving it.

Uh, when we would, you know, for, for vacation for me growing up, you know, it wasn't Disney World, it was going, you know, into the forest or, or things like that.

And so I d- it was one of those things where I just never had enough time when I lived in LA or, or New York, and not that I didn't still connect to nature, but I just didn't have the time.

And it was one of those things that when I, when I left New York City, I was headed back out to LA for that Santa Monica situation, and I decided that I [chuckles] was going to, uh, take the northern drive across the country because I hadn't done that before.

Can you share what you've been facing and how it's changed your perspective on life and travel?