Paul Alo-Emile

They, they, but they were often a team that was trying to forge their own identity in a, a very competitive Super Rugby environment.

I, I remember talking to guys like- Paul Alo-Emile, who was playing with you, uh, in, in the same camp and, and guys who are from Melbourne, having such a saturated sporting market with AFL, NRL, cricket, other, other sports in the city.

If you think about your time with the team in a city where union isn't the main sport, did, did you feel a s- or sort of sense of responsibility or, or representation as well? So...

Or did something that the coaches or, or players speak about, so you can really put yourselves on the map as, as a team?