Patrick McGee
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Sep 10, 2026
Ed ElsonHOST
Apple shares closed roughly flat.
Ed ElsonHOST
So joining us to discuss the beginning of John Ternus's term and the foldable phone, we are speaking with Patrick McGee, award-winning journalist and author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company.
Ed ElsonHOST
Patrick, welcome back.
Ed ElsonHOST
Good to see you.
7 MINS LATER
Ed ElsonHOST
I'm not, I'm not sure [chuckles] about the size of it.
Ed ElsonHOST
Putting that in your pocket, in your pocket every day, I'm not sure that would be worth it to me, but we'll see.
Ed ElsonHOST
Patrick McGeehan is journalist and author of Apple in China.
Ed ElsonHOST
Patrick, always appreciate your time.
Elizabeth EconomyHOST
agree.
Elizabeth EconomyHOST
I actually interviewed Patrick McGee on the podcast previously, and I agree with you.
Elizabeth EconomyHOST
I think the book is also just a phenomenal piece of reporting and really illuminates the issue of how China became such a manufacturing powerhouse and why it's so difficult for us to de-risk in supply chains.
Elizabeth EconomyHOST
So anyway, I agree.
Tim CulpanHOST
But yes, I think the world and history will look upon Tim Cook in a very kind way.
Tim CulpanHOST
Unless that history book is written by Patrick McGee, who wrote Apple in China, in which case, probably not as kind.
Tim CulpanHOST
Ah, but yes, I think history will be kind to Tim Cook.
Tim CulpanHOST
He grew the company from an operations point of view, from his role as COO
Tom SullivanHOST
And he's the new CEO starting today.
Tom SullivanHOST
So Patrick McGee with the Financial Times kind of gave an analysis of what he thinks this change will mean.
Patrick McGeeSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
So in software, AI, you know, Apple has sort of failed there and even capitulated, right? They're not really in the running to create a large language model.
Patrick McGeeSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Instead, they've basically capitulated to Google.
Kit ConklinHOST
Today, we're joined by Patrick McGee, New York Times bestselling author of Apple in China, a book that starts as the story of one company's rise in the world's most important manufacturing ecosystem and quickly becomes something much, much bigger.
Kit ConklinHOST
Because Apple is not just a consumer technology company.
Kit ConklinHOST
It has one of the most sophisticated supply chains ever built.
27 MINS LATER
Patrick McGeeGUEST
Thanks, Kit.
Patrick McGeeGUEST
I don't know.
Patrick McGeeGUEST
I guess on X, I'm not all that frequent on there, but Patrick McGee underscore is my annoyingly cumbersome username because some other Patrick McGee had already taken it.
Patrick McGeeGUEST
But LinkedIn is actually probably the easiest way to find me if one wants to actually contact me, and I'm more than open to that.
Kit ConklinHOST
Great.
Glenn ChafetzGUEST
You have a great level of education in China.
Glenn ChafetzGUEST
Apple knew, of course, there were trade-offs in terms of losing IP, and if you, if you draw the curve out, um, as Patrick McGee so ably demonstrated in his book, it ends badly.
Glenn ChafetzGUEST
Right? It ends badly because Huawei and Xiaomi and, and all these other companies, they make, uh, an equivalent of the iPhone.
Glenn ChafetzGUEST
Maybe it has 85% of the, of the quality, but, but it's sold at 40% of the cost, and that's very difficult for the Chinese consumer to resist.