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Patrick Murphy

Patrick Murphy

Attorney and former United States Representative

Aug 7, 2026

49:44
Um, how much do you think this impacts America's ability, uh, to fight any potential threat in the near future?
49:52
There's no doubt that we have to, we have to really reenergize the DIB, the Defense Industrial Base.
49:58
But Jake, CSIS, very well-respected bipartisan think tank, or a frankly nonpartisan think tank, says it's gonna take three years to get where we were pre-Iran War with THAAD and Patriot missiles.
50:11
Each of these THAAD missiles, they cost about $12 to $15 million apiece.
50:15
They're made in Troy and Huntsville, Alabama, and Los Angeles, California.
50:19
But the reality of it is, is that we can't make them fast enough, and we are now depleted.
50:24
So, so again, it's putting us in a vulnerable spot, and not just us, meaning our troops, because again, we remember we have about 50,000 troops in that region.
51:04
I don't know if you saw that story, but what would be your reaction to that?
10:57
been, go for it.
10:59
Yeah, the American people are sick and tired of being sick and tired.
11:03
Because even a dollar more for a gallon of gas, that's $547 a year to the average family.
11:11
And as Jonathan pointed out earlier, When you look at diesel being up so high, think about the Teamsters, those truck drivers like my grandfather was when he came back from the Pacific in World War II.
11:23
They're paying outrageous numbers for diesel gas in America.
11:26
That is jacking up prices for consumers.
11:29
So these are unforced errors, Jonathan.
13:28
In fact, he usually mocks the very idea of affordability if it's presented to him.
12:29
Especially Garrick
12:29
...
12:29
this does...
12:30
Yes, especially Garrick.
12:32
Uh, but this does seem to be Alabama, Texas, and I, I, I saw that pop up there, Indiana for a five-star wide receiver.
12:43
I went to look the other day when Garrick and I were talking about this, um, 'cause, 'cause he's going out of town.
12:48
He's taking some vacation, and, and obviously they've got these two potential commitments, and he was like, "Hey, I've got the stories ready if things happen," a little peek behind the curtain there.

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What's your vibe?
5:57
And if you're a Buckeye fan out there, which I, I know 99% of the people watching this are, uh, that's gotta make you happy that the Buckeyes are firmly entrenched in that top five, Patrick Murphy.
6:05
Murphy.Yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna start off with was if you pulled this article up and looked and didn't see Ohio State in the top five there, I think you'd start to be pretty concerned.
6:16
Not that Ohio State recently has given you any reason to be concerned given what they've done, not only in the transfer portal earlier this off-season, but recently in recruiting.
6:24
And, and, um, you know, I know Dan and, uh, Mark and Garrett talked yesterday a lot about that, the, the recruiting success the Buckeyes have had.
6:33
Um, relationships, all that, the, that remains important, but NIL has become one of the top factors, if not the top factor, depending on who you're talking to, with, with a lot of the prospects.
6:44
So I think being involved in, in the who's who when it comes to the financial aspect of things in this landscape that we're currently in is, is really important.
6:53
And Ohio State, if they wanna stay at the top of the sport where they have been, you know, really since the beginning of this century, um, I think you, you have to have the financial means to do it.

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[laughs]
1:59
And they're
2:01
two very different things.
2:03
You can be angry without being aggressive.
2:07
And anger is generally one of the most misunderstood emotions.
2:12
It's a brilliant emotion that is usually pointing us back to a violation of our boundaries, a violation of our dignity, or a violation of our values.
2:24
Generally one of those three things.
2:27
But very often, anger gets shamed, especially in early childhood.
4:04
Can you differentiate somehow what anger looks like and aggression looks like? Because I'm having a bit of an
3:27
Hmm.
3:27
I, you know, got good grades, went to good schools, got the good job, started getting promoted, raises, you know, all, everything.
3:35
And so I would sit there and look at my life and wonder why, why don't I feel fulfilled? Why don't I feel better on the inside? Not only, not only why don't I feel better, but why am I having troub- ri- excuse me.
3:49
Why am I having trouble sleeping? Why am I, um, you know, suffering from all of this anxiety? Why do I freeze up when, uh, you know, a client emails and they're upset? All these things were happening on the inside, but again, outside everything looked fine.
4:06
And this is something that I see all the time with high-performing people, high achievers who kind of took the same route as me, and very often it just traces back to childhood trauma.
4:19
Not always, but very often.
7:10
Mm
7:11
... really caused the, the trauma inside of me.
10:44
Why did you have McEwen in there?
10:46
I think the production that he's had over the course of his career, and I know it was at UTSA, which is not one of the... power conferences but he has played at least I think every year at least once he has played against a power conference he didn't light it up but he was productive in those games and I thought based on his spring practice I thought he looked to the part you know he didn't look out of place playing at Ohio State and you know the defense at Ohio State's pretty good even though they lose eight starters every year it seems.
11:18
I also think, and this will be a common theme, I think, in the positions we talk about, I don't know how much starting matters at wide receiver because I do think we're going to see Ohio State get back to rotating more guys in.
11:30
I think there could be a game where, based on the play that they want to run, Kyle Parker is out there on the first snap.
11:36
Or maybe they run just two receivers out there to start the game and have more tight ends.
11:41
So it may come out that the first play of the Ball State game, Devin McEwen isn't on the field, but that doesn't mean he's not going to play a lot.
11:50
Same to be said about Kyle Parker.

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29:11
What do you want to tell the listeners a little bit about Kellen Hall? Where things stand with Ohio State? Maybe anything else that stood out to you from yesterday?
16:49
[laughs]
16:50
Yeah.
16:51
Okay.
16:51
Um, I went with Bo Jackson first for total touchdowns, and I think that when they get into the red zone, they are going to use these tight ends m- you know, they're certainly going to line up with, in heavy tight end packages.
17:05
I think they're going to be more effective with that under Arthur Smith.
17:08
The way he did it with, in the NFL, not only do touchdowns, or do tight ends catch touchdowns, but they're also more effective blocking.
17:16
So I think Bo Jackson, just by the nature of being on the field the most, is gonna be in there.

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Who you got?
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Uh, who are you, and why are you wanting to run for Glendale Council?
25:01
Well, I am, um, a native New Yorker, born and raised there.
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I'm the youngest of nine children.
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Dad was NYPD, retired a lieutenant after 29 years.
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Mom worked very hard until the early morning hours doing laundry for all of us.
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I, um, came to California 41 years ago for the California dream, and I've, I've lived the dream, and I am retiring from my business, and this is my way of giving back.
25:30
The reasons...

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30:44
How did, uh, how did the locals react when you told them all these plans to take away parking in a city that already is infamous for being a pain in the ass to park in?
24:27
How, Murph? How are we here?
24:30
I think, number one, it was complete buy-in from top to bottom, from the staff, the players.
24:38
We have a new athletic trainer, our strength coach, I mean, the whole thing.
24:42
And, you know, we have this huge event on Selection Sunday, and you've heard me say this, but Selection Sunday to me is like Christmas.
24:49
You, you get to celebrate Mother's Day, and then you get to celebrate all the work that you put in since basically August 20th.
24:57
That's what it comes down to.
24:58
You have 10 months with this group of people, and in our clubhouse there was probably 45 people that are involved with our program, from the players and the staff, and it's just this incredible, exciting, like a big party.

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4:16
We got an update on the war.
4:18
You learn about what we did in the, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, you know, kind of what started that.
4:23
But as you know, I taught at West Point for years, and I still lecture at the US Army War College.
4:28
Uh, you had to know all the demands, domains of warfare, you know-
2:07
Patrick Murphy on a blockade in an age of drones.
2:13
Yeah, well, listen, let's hope that there's not storm drones going after, you know, our troops that are over there.
2:19
Because as you know, we've had the largest U.S. military buildup in that region since before the Iraq War, which I served in during the invasion.
2:27
And, you know, it's already cost, you know, when you think about, Tom, today's tax day, it's cost the American taxpayer by the end of this month, two months of the war, $42 billion.
2:37
And that's from the Penn Wharton Budget Model Office at Penn University.
2:42
where I teach.
2:43
So, you know, that's why a lot of Americans are saying, hey, you promised me one thing, no new wars, and you gave me this.
3:38
What do you think is the best off ramp here?
16:42
Patrick Murphy on a blockade in an age of drones.
16:48
Yeah.
16:48
Well, listen, I, let's hope that there's not swarm drones going after, you know, our troops that are over there, 'cause as you know, we've had the largest US military buildup in that region since before the Iraq War, which I served in during the invasion.
17:02
And, you know, it's already cost, you know, when, when you think about, Tom, today's Tax Day, it's cost the American taxpayer by the end of this month, two months of the war, $42 billion, and that's from the Penn Wharton Budget Model Office, uh, at Penn Wharton, where I sp- where I teach.
17:18
So, you know, that's why a lot of Americans are saying, "Hey, you promised me one thing, no new wars," and they gave me this.
17:26
"You promised me less inflation, it's gone up." Uh, and, you know, it's projected to be 4.2%.
17:33
Uh, gas prices are over a dollar.
18:13
What do you think is, is the best off-ramp here?
36:58
Do you feel like he gave you any sense, any piece of information about how this story ends?
37:07
Uh, unfortunately Antonia, not, and listen, I, I'm, I'm a proud American.
37:11
I'm a proud former soldier, Iraq veteran, but, uh, this was a war of choice.
37:17
And, uh, the clear strategy around this war is, is murky and, and that's just not former Secretary Patrick Murphy telling you, that's Trump's own former Secretary of Defense, uh, saying that, uh, uh, Mattis, Mad Dog Mattis.
37:32
And so for those of us who are warriors that, that pull for brothers and sisters currently serving, um, it, it is not, it is not good, and it was not reassuring last night.
37:43
And the actions today, which I'm sure we'll talk about, uh, also give us great pause.
39:33
Patrick, what does this signal to you? In the middle of a chaotic war, we do not understand what the, [laughs] uh, the end game here is, what the objectives are, they've, there've been a few, um, and of course with the looming prospect of boots on the ground to have this person removed from his post.
39:52
Yeah.
7:41
There are real-life implications for this war in Iran, and it's playing out, Congressman, in literally every gas pump in America.
7:51
No doubt, Simone, you're absolutely right.
7:53
And that's why Americans are so frustrated.
7:56
They were promised no new wars.
7:58
They were promised less inflation.
8:01
What did they get? They got the Iran war, a war of choice with no imminent threat that has cost not just 13 American service members their lives, thousands of Iranians, but also an oil shock that is driving Americans' prices up He talked about a dollar more for a gallon of gas.
8:20
But also inflation, Simone.
12:44
Secretary, can you just weigh in on this part? Because the idea that now Iran is in charge of the Strait of Hormuz and now they are talking about charging for it, I think is it's not unconscionable because I do believe that somewhere there was a book or a plan that said this is something they could do if, in fact, they were attacked.
29:03
Um, you also hear from the administration that, you know, you can't be broadcasting in the media or having these conversations publicly about you, what you will and won't do because that is kind of, uh, showing your cards to the regime in Tehran.
29:20
And that's what they said, uh, over seven months ago with Midnight Hammer.
29:24
That's what they said in Venezuela.
29:26
That's what they're saying now in weeks now i- in the Iranian war.
29:30
Uh, and I don't know when Congress is gonna start growing a backbone, Audie, but I will tell you this, um, the American people are very upset.
29:39
Those 2.5 million American families that have a son or daughter serving in that region are upset.
29:46
They are praying to make sure that their sons and daughters don't go into harm's way in a war of choice.
30:43
They don't have an alternative to offer to the voter, and please tell me if I'm, I'm wrong here.
5:35
Uh, this administration seems to think it might bring us closer to an end to the war, but how can the war end if it's not clear what the goals of this war even are?
5:44
Exactly, and that's why, you know, we need the Congress to act, 'cause it's only Congress that declare war, and they keep punting their responsibility time and time again, especially this Congress, uh, to this president.
5:56
A- and so you're looking at the MAGA, frankly, uh-Teammates fracturing here.
6:03
You see Joe Kent from DNI, combat veteran himself, uh, who just resigned.
6:08
Uh, y- you see Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.
6:12
Uh, you're seeing the majority of Americans saying, "Whoa, whoa, whoa.
6:15
We did not sign up for this." Uh, a- and so, you know, I don't lose sleep over, uh, you know, the fact that we hit Iran a- and, and I'm not a big fan of the regime.
9:54
Secretary, is that how it works?
speaker_3UNKNOWN
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Uh, can you talk about how that fits in and why that's important to you?
6:48
Unbelievable.
6:49
Hey, damn, damn you're good.
6:51
You must be a good coach.
6:52
[laughs] Seriously, the two go hand in hand, okay? And I have done this long enough, and we would always...
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I love the word affirmation, and this is how I describe it to my team.
7:04
I'll say this, "I like your, uh, sweater today, Billy.

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[chuckles]
27:27
How do you adjust an executive, how do you adapt to an executive that can do this on a whim versus legislative authority?
27:37
Yeah.
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For 250 years, uh, we've had an America that was a limited gov- federal government.
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That was the whole point of our government when we broke away from England.
27:45
Uh, and, and you're right, I did spend six years in the Army before I became a judge advocate, before I earned my law degree and taught constitutional law at West Point.
27:53
That Constitution is a blueprint of our country.
27:55
This is not a TPS report from Office Space.
30:45
Is our military, uh, I k- I wanna call you congressman, is our military, uh, Patrick Murphy, exhausted by the multiple platforms of being in Asia, having to transfer to the Middle East, and yet, as Damien says, worrying about China and Taiwan? Do you sense a military exhaustion at this point?
14:55
Mm.
14:56
I don't want that here.
14:57
I want the first kid out of the dugout to be that, that kid that she has battled with the entire preseason to be as happy for her success as if she did it herself.
15:08
And then I also add, I'll say, "Okay, if somebody comes into our stadium that's late, they buy a ticket, and as they go through the, the gate of the stadium, they hear this noise, and they know something good has happened, so they sprint into the stadium.
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They run down to their seat.
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They sit down, and they see this huge group of people at home plate.
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I want them to have to ask their neighbor on either side of them, 'What happened? Who hit the home run?' Because they all look happy." There shouldn't be one kid in that, that scrum of people that looks upset, and if it is, it's probably the girl that that's the position that she plays, and the other girl beat her out.
18:17
... yeah, fill us in from there.
18:25
Wh- when you, when you talk to corporations out there, uh, executives, do they, do they understand that, uh, you know, this, they really are impacted by geopolitics? Because I think we as consumers and investors, we learned that the hard way during kind of the, the pandemic, if you will, because of, boy, that global supply chain's pretty fragile.
18:44
Yeah, no doubt about it.
18:45
And I think what you're seeing, Paul, is markets are rewarding resilience.
18:49
You look, look at the numbers.
18:49
I'm a numbers guy, right? So 70% of global manufacturings, uh, they're manufacture, they're basically like they're saying, "Hey, we want to make sure that we are increasing onshore or near shore." Why? Because they want to make sure that, you know, they're moving from just in time basically inventory models to making sure they're being replaced by hybrid systems.
19:09
So 60% basically a safety stock, right? Because we saw during COVID when they were hurting, they weren't able to react and, and produce for their customers.
19:18
So that's what Hilco does and we're phenomenal at basically excelling w- for our clients where we say, "Hey, let's make sure that we're doing pricing and repositioning when you look at these geopolitical dislocations, particularly though where the public policy collides with private capital." So, you know, we are best in the world at this.
20:12
I'm just curious what you're hearing from your clients n- as they look at investments through this geopolitical lens and what are some of their biggest concerns heading into the new year?
58:54
... are people looking to defraud people.
58:56
Right.
58:56
And that there's eight million calls a day, which means th- 40% is 3.2 million calls.
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There's not 3.2 million calls a day.
59:02
And when you look at what they're doing, because they fired folks, they fired a deputy commissioner, et cetera, they, their website has crashed four times in the last 10 days.
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When you look at the fact that they're shutting down regional offices, field offices...
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Now again, I'm for con- consolidation.
63:57
So do you realize how much we're gonna be able to save once these guys even leave Washington and go back home if we could fix the system? And that means less people, right?

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