Pat Flynn

Yeah,

and I think it kind of ties into Pat Flynn, who was there at camp, which was very, very cool.

He did an incredible talk that the whole super fans, he's got a book about super fans.

And that's basically what you're saying.

But great question.

I think it's interesting because, and that's why I loved, I mean, I loved all our speakers that were at Ecamm Career Camp.

But we started off the thing with Pat Flynn, who's just like, he sneezes online and he'll get a million views, right? And he was showing examples of a guy kicking rocks online.

who was getting all these views, which I think is very inspirational.

Would you like to schedule a free coaching call with me?" And that free coaching call use-- I have a...

My previous book is called Serve to Sell, and I-- this actually was inspired by Pat Flynn.

You talked a long time ago about how he used to do these, uh, these, these regular audi calls with audience members where he would do, like, a free call with them just to get to know them, and I love that idea, but I, uh, wanted to get paid for it.

So I learned how to structure these free coaching calls in such a way so that a hundred percent of the time, the potential customer walks away going, "Wow, that was useful." A hundred percent of the time you walk away going, "I just got a ton of market research." And about half the time, you walk away with a few thousand dollars in your pocket, right? So it's a pretty good use of your time and energy.

You know, for me, I often like, uh, to live by this phrase, and that's, "I'd much rather live a life full of 'oh wells' than a life load of, full of what ifs."

That, my friends, was Pat Flynn, who is one of my... maybe is the biggest mentor I've had in business over the years.

He is someone who I've learned from.

I've been a student in his courses.

I was a founding member of his SPI, Smart Passive Income, community when it launched in 2020, and I've been following him for years.

And this episode is actually an ode to Pat Flynn because he made the announcement recently that he's just recently sold SPI to Liz Wilcox, who I actually got to meet both of them in person last week.

My wife and I just got back from New York City.

I had a chance to finally meet Pat in person and Liz, um, for this kind of small mastermind-style workshop event that was held at the new New York City Kit offices in New York City, and it was freaking awesome.

And so that goes back to your mind being a very powerful tool.

And the funny thing on that is Pat Flynn wrote a book called "Lean Learning," and he said the issue that we run into today is that there's so much information at our fingertips that it actually does more damage to us.

And so that's where you really have to fine-tune and really draw the boundaries of what you're trying to accomplish and then find those resources that will align with whatever you're trying to accomplish to move forward.

He said a lot of people are in the point where it's, "I just need this information," and he's like, "That's doing more harm to you than good, and you wanna really focus on what is that information that you're looking to gather, and it does it align with what you're trying to accomplish?" Because if you really think about it, we do have a ton of information at our fingertips.

and you're learning from what you're doing.

So this concept was expressed by Pat Flynn in his book Lean Learning.

I highly recommend that book.

I've read it once.

This is something that I really have been working on lately.

People know Pat Flynn is one of my mentors.

I'm in his group and we've been doing, he released the book, lean learning.

And he has a little accountability group, which we check in with each other.

This episode, while I might be sharing some things, isn't about me.

This episode is about the one, the only, Pat Flynn.

Wow, Pat has influenced so many of us over the years.

And I wanted to come in and as a thank you to him, interview some of those people that he has helped along the way, people that he might not even know.

I also used to work for a guy named Jeff Goins for a little bit.

He used to teach authors how to build audiences and businesses online.

And I just remember Jeff saying, I would love to work with Pat Flynn one day.

He's such a good guy.