25 sites, 84 farmers, 7,500 hectares, farmers and ecologists working side by side and commonage farmers coming together for the first time.

What we came up with was the idea of communist groups.

And we set up a constitution.

It was properly put together and there was a chairman appointed and a secretary and met a couple of times in the year, at least a couple of times in the year.

In some of the cases, all of the shareholders weren't getting along with each other.

But then, if there was a chairperson there who was able to get along with them all, well then, you know, they could go into a room, sit down, didn't have to talk to each other, but they could talk to each other through the chairperson.

And what's the difference between an upland grazed by cattle and an upland grazed by sheep?

Well, I found that our ecologist told us that time that she found a huge difference in it because when we went into Seuss, she did a baseline survey.

25 sites, 84 farmers, 7,500 hectares, farmers and ecologists working side by side and commonage farmers coming together for the first time.

What we came up with was the idea of common age groups where a common age group and we set up a constitution like you know it was properly put together and there was a chairman appointed and a secretary and met a couple of times in the year, at least a couple of times in the year.

In some of the cases, all of the shareholders weren't getting along with each other.

But then, if there was a chairperson there who was able to get along with them all, well then, you know, they could go into a room, sit down, didn't have to talk to each other, but they could talk to each other through the chairperson.

And what's the difference between an upland grazed by cattle and an upland grazed by sheep?

Well, I found that day, our ecologist told us that time, that she found a huge difference in because when we went into Seuss she did a baseline survey and then in a couple of years she'd come back and she looked and she said that she couldn't believe the improvement because they were grazing down you know all this old tougher stuff you see the way the sheep won't graze that the cattle will graze that down they'll follow it down and they'll tidy it up we did a lot of millennia where we put them in and they're doing the right job cleaning the millennia down

Do you actually help people find housing? Are you actually a real estate agent as well?

No.

When we first started, it was all-- And the, the platform, our program, everything is we provide the space, the place, the information, all the way through the process of your finding housemates.

We have oodles of, um, blog posts and, and conversations about how to find the most compatible person, and how do you know if they're compatible.

Our plan was always that that's kind of where we stopped, because then the housemate groups would form, and they'd go out together and find a place to live.

So, and for a little, for a few years, that worked.

Then COVID happened.

What have you learned in these six years about where we have gone wrong in society about housing for our seniors, and specifically our senior women?