Have you kind of, are you getting feedback from your customers, your operator customers in, in terms of what's working? What, what customers, what consumers are prepared to pay for and how often?

Uh, absolutely.

I think, Justin, um, y-you see you touched on some very important points here, um, one being the economics of it all, and frankly, our mandate was not to prevent a fragmentation of the market, but really to prevent a fragmentation of the user experience across different spectrum bands, across different satellites, uh, so that the end result is persistent background connectivity that you can take for granted.

And I would say that we have enabled, uh, a service that an operator can include in all of their plans for eligible devices, as you have seen with Verizon as an example in the US.

You have seen other monetization models evolve also, uh, such as what the European operators, uh, our, our partners and our customers are doing there.

I, I don't think there is a one-size-fits-all, um, mode here for how, uh, the end user gets access to satellite today.

But my, my view is that, uh, ultimately this will become a table stakes part of every network, and I don't think it's just for the sake of adding a, uh, adding a, a new service, et cetera.

Yeah, I guess so.

Tell us how it led to the founding of Skylo.

Sure.

So I, uh, uh, I always had the urge to, uh, get myself involved in and stay relevant and current, uh, on, on building, prototyping, um-Uh, o- on the engineering front.

And so there was a professor, uh, on, in this, uh, aerospace, uh, department, Dr. Andrew Kalman, um, who was one of the pioneers of the CubeSat.

I became the program manager for satellite mission that we were launching from Stanford, uh, under Andrew's guidance.

I realized that, uh, it's just extremely cumbersome and expensive and difficult to communicate, to establish just basic TTNC links with, uh, the satellites.

Um, and more so, it is combination of, uh, the protocols that we are using which are outdated, um, and not relevant in the cellular context.

Right.