Like, what was, as his mom, like, what was going through your mind?

So I'm there at every fight.

I can't be at every WWE thing 'cause it's weekly.

Um, but I'm at the big ones and some small ones.

But, um, thank goodness that I'm a nurse, and so I, I understand injury and I understand the risks, and I'm also an athlete, so I also understand that this is what they chose to do.

This is what their passion is.

And I always have to tell myself that, like, Jake chose this.

Like, what advice do you have for parents who are raising kids in this internet world that they want to be like your kids?

I wanna put myself online." What are some of the things you would caution parents against?

It's very heavily in this book because it's basically why I wrote it.

I felt like a little bit of an obligation as a parent that's been through it with two of them, the most polarizing and controversial digital creators.

I should put it out there because we didn't have a, a book.

We didn't have a, you know, like we say, Dr. Spock and all those books, you know, that you can write them, but until you go through the experience yourself, like I'm not a PhD, I can't tell you all the effects of social media on the brain, but I can tell you from experience, which I think is really important, and I do think that every child nowadays, they do not wanna be doctors and nurses and firemen and accountants, and they wanna be either in the tech world or s- creators, digital creators, gamers, anything to be famous and, and the internet and fame is very dangerous.

I'm here to tell you it's really hard on your mental health.

My biggest thing for parents is, and especially your, your kids coming up, is you have to know who they're...

How has your sons' discipline rubbed off on you as their mother?

Yeah.

And we had to recover, and luckily they did, but that's probably gonna be rare in that game.

So I, as their mom, from the mother's perspective, wanted to share and help other parents and kids and influencers, and actually anyone online, give them some tips and a toolkit to basically help follow and maybe prevent some of the, um, hardships that we went through as a family, to maybe prevent that.

And I think it opens the conversation to start talking about how, how to handle social media.

There's, there's nothing out there like that.

There, there...

What I say is, and not from a person who's been through it.

Like, give the glory to God, Mom, about everything in this book.

So what was that like for you, Pammy?

So I had two of those moments.

O- dancing with Logan and walking him to the altar to marry the love of his life.

[laughs]

That was amazing.

And it, it, it's still surreal.

Like, this whole thing is surreal.

So it wa- it meant everything.

What do you think about him, Ma?

Well, I didn't really know who he was, so I had to look it up.

That's how I know his age.

Um, because, you know, I read the, all the comments, which I'm not supposed to do, and the Google alerts about the internet making fun of Jake.

And if they wanna get in the ring, all those haters wanna get in the ring themselves, then they can then speak.

Other than that, just shut up.

[laughs]

He, you know, like, this guy is a, is a very well-seasoned boxer, and it's gonna be tough.

[laughs]

Yeah, I'm wearing red.

That's why I'm answering this question.

Um, not, not really.

I, we interact pretty much how we always interact and pretty much can determine what's coming.

Um, I think between the boys, meaning Dad, Logan, Jake, it's been very comical to watch.

You can just sit back and laugh most of the time.

So- [laughs]