Padma Raman

I'm not sure it's ever gonna happen, but you know what I mean.

It's sort of how are those who are really pushing to do the best they can, how are they translating that learning to others that still have a way to go? So that was one of the things I think, Touching on your opening remarks, one of the really great things for us this year was that we really were able to be on the sidelines of the Australian delegation, which was led by Padma Raman, who heads up the Federal Government's Office for Women, and Michelle O'Byrne, Ambassador for Gender Equality, and quite a big group.

And every afternoon there was this sort of gathering where we all sat on the floor in kind of a big circle and people shared their thoughts and their learnings from the day.

That was a real... a real highlight for me.