Ozoz Sokoh

... just about fufu because I felt like I really wanted to flesh out the reason why I was having such a hard time, and the whole thing with, you know, we live in a global food system.

You had Ozoz on your, um, podcast too, so you're gonna hear the Nigerian perspective.

But then I was co-opting the concept of swallows, and I was like, "Wait a second, maybe that's not gonna work for us because not everything is swallowed whole." So yes-

Yeah