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Out of the Crisis
Book by W. Edwards Deming
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Oct 9, 2026
Revisiting 'Out of the Crisis' (Ep. 176)
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0:02Jeffrey ShermanHOST
And I'm Jeffrey Sherman.
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0:03Jeffrey ShermanHOST
And today we're gonna talk about Out of the Crisis by, uh, Deming.
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0:08Jeffrey ShermanHOST
So this is another book that is not about software engineering particularly, or at all, uh, 'cause it's from the early '80s, and it's a classic and it is still very relevant to software engineering and ever more relevant than, uh, even more relevant t-today than it used to be.
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0:27Jeffrey ShermanHOST
Uh, and if you've never r- or you don't know who Deming is, he had this amazing career where in the '30s he basically invented statistical sampling to help with the U.S. Census.
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0:39Isaac AskewHOST
Cool.
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0:40Jeffrey ShermanHOST
And then in the '50s, he went to Japan and he basically had all the leaders of Japan, all the economic, r- factory people from Japan, he explained statistical sampling to them and helped them invent just-in-time delivery systems.
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0:57Jeffrey ShermanHOST
And then in the '80s, when he was like 80, or '70s, uh, he wrote this book, Out of the Crisis, uh, about how American manufacturing was in the dumps and why it was in the dumps.
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1:11Jeffrey ShermanHOST
Uh, and he came back, he got called in by Ford.
A New Lens with Balaji Reddie (Part 9)
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1:19Balaji ReddieGUEST
So, uh, uh, I, I should have mentioned, uh, you know, a, a particular person, uh, at that time.
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1:26Balaji ReddieGUEST
Uh, this was the lady who was, uh, working on behalf of MIT CAES, Center for Advanced Engineering Study, who they are the people who originally published Out of the Crisis and The New Economics.
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1:40Balaji ReddieGUEST
And if you know, The New Economics second edition, uh, came out in ninety-four, March ninety-four, after Dr. Deming had passed away.
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1:49Balaji ReddieGUEST
And that's when, uh, you know, my early days in, in the Deming world, and I was, uh, when the internet came in, and I was sending out emails to people I knew, um, might've seen, uh, my-- whose pictures I saw on the net, right? Uh, including, uh, you know, and me and to Henry.
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7:32Andrew StotzHOST
Right.
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7:32Balaji ReddieGUEST
Right? And, uh, so later on, it's, I think it was Bill Latzko who, uh, told, told Deming to use the word leadership.
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7:40Balaji ReddieGUEST
And so in, in the 1986 edition in Out of the Crisis, he brought in adopt and institute leadership, and he said the aim of leadership should be to help people and machines do a better job.
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7:51Balaji ReddieGUEST
And he elaborated this a bit more in the 1990 edition, saying, "Adopt and institute leadership for the management of people, recognizing their different abilities, capabilities, and aspirations." And then he adds, "The aim of leadership should be to help people, machines, and gadgets do a better job.
A New Lens with Balaji Reddie (Part 9)
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1:25Balaji ReddieGUEST
... at that time.
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1:26Balaji ReddieGUEST
Uh, this was the lady who was, uh, working on behalf of MIT CAES, Center for Advanced Engineering Study, who they are the people who originally published Out of the Crisis and The New Economics.
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1:40Balaji ReddieGUEST
And if you know The New Economics second edition, uh, came out in '94, March '94, after Dr. Deming had passed away.
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1:49Balaji ReddieGUEST
And that's when, uh, you know, my early days in, in the Deming world, and I was, uh, when the internet came in, and I was sending out emails to people I knew, um, might've seen, uh, my... whose pictures I saw on the net, right? Uh, including, uh, you know, and mail to Henry.
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7:19Balaji ReddieGUEST
Uh, in other words, the person who would see, uh, other, you know, things that the people inside the, the processor system could not see, right? So in other words, he was, he ac- they actually meant manager, leader, call it what you will.
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7:32Andrew StotzHOST
Right.
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7:32Balaji ReddieGUEST
Right? And, uh, so later on, it's, I think it was Bill Latzko who, uh, told, told Deming to use the word leadership, and so in, in the 1986 edition in Out of the Crisis, he brought in adopt and institute leadership, and he said the aim of leadership should be to help people and machines do a better job.
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7:51Balaji ReddieGUEST
And he elaborated this a bit more in the 1990 edition saying, "Adopt and institute leadership for the management of people, recognizing their different abilities, capabilities, and aspirations." And then he adds, "The aim of leadership should be to help people, machines, and gadgets do a better job.
John Willis: Why AI's Biggest Problem Isn't Technology
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9:46John WillisGUEST
You're like, okay, Mount Everest is system of profound knowledge.
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9:51John WillisGUEST
Right? And that's the one where you're like, okay, I read Out of the Crisis.
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9:57John WillisGUEST
I think I get it.
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9:58John WillisGUEST
The 14 points make sense.
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25:39John WillisGUEST
us more
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25:40Andrew StotzHOST
about that because, you know, for those people that, you know, I mean, there's so many different components.
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25:45Andrew StotzHOST
And, you know, when I got introduced to Deming, it was the 14 points out of the crisis.
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25:51Andrew StotzHOST
And then I left America in 1992.
John Willis: Why AI's Biggest Problem Isn't Technology
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9:46John WillisGUEST
You're like, okay, Mount Everest is system of profound knowledge.
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9:51John WillisGUEST
Right? And that's the one where you're like, okay, I read Out of the Crisis.
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9:57John WillisGUEST
I think I get it.
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9:58John WillisGUEST
The 14 points make sense.
16 MINS LATER
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25:39John WillisGUEST
us more
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25:40Andrew StotzHOST
about that because, you know, for those people that, you know, I mean, there's so many different components.
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25:45Andrew StotzHOST
And, you know, when I got introduced to Deming, it was the 14 points out of the crisis.
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25:51Andrew StotzHOST
And then I left America in 1992.