Oswald Spengler

But the idea of socialism, it didn't originate with Marx.

And that was one of Spengler's important points.

Even if you don't accept Spengler's view of history, and you think it's just kind of needlessly esoteric and mystical, his essay Prussianism and Socialism, and then later, to a lesser degree, his book...

Yeah, it's like a longer essay.

It's been beefed up with secondary analyses.

about man kind of, like, rationally choosing to, like, organize politics this way, and that's nonsense.

Maybe that's a topic for another episode, but yeah, yeah.

I like that you mentioned how Europeans view politics versus Americans, especially back then because, and then earlier you had mentioned how, you know, people read Spengler and he seemed, it seems esoteric because I recommended Imperium to somebody and they started reading it and they're like, this, does it stay this esoteric? And then that's when you realize it's like, well, Politics isn't one thing.

Yeah, that's an interesting analog.

Which is close to, um, Oswald Spengler's, uh, criticism of Marxism.

That it is the socialism of capitalism? [laughs]

Yeah.

I'm not happy about this.

But recently I've kinda started to take the, the Spenglerian approach to the destruction of the West, in that it was, to an extent, kind of baked into the cake a long time ago.

Yeah.

Exactly.

You know, Mosley's people read this, and they were like, "This is, this is insane.

This, nothing, there's nothing like this anywhere else." And I think that really the only thing that they could have compared it to at the time would have been Spengler, but it was he had taken a step beyond that.

Yes.

No, that's, that's, that's exactly how to, uh, how to describe it.

Yeah.

Yeah, dissident, dissident right, these spheres, our thing, the Cosa Nostra, whatever the f- the 5,000 names that we have for it.

If I had to recommend a single book and you only had to read one, I would recommend Imperium, and this is because Imperium not only has Spengler, not only has Yockey, but its metaphysics are drawn almost entirely, not, not, not entirely, Yockey has his own, his own, uh, precepts, but drawn largely from the Evolian framework.

Mm-hmm.

So, like, uh, yeah, I'm into, like, Crowley, uh, Golden Dawn stuff, but my stuff is a syncretism between Kenneth Grant's Typhani and Thelema, and, uh, a lot of the Nordic Germanic, a say true stuff.

And I'm heavily influenced by, uh, Oswald Spengler as well.

Julius Evola, Renee Gunan, and the chaos magic of Austin, us and spare.

So, yeah, it's like, There's a lot that I could say about that, but that's generally what I'm into.

The ultimate source of the sovereign mandate, in common with the territory availed to it and the founding acts or acts of dominion leading to its capture, capture use and exclusive appropriation, represented as much of an unknown quantity as the origin of the language spoken by the ethnos in question.

A sacred act or succession of acts by a liminal figure or figures, the shedding of blood in the course of conquest, and the realization of these processes as the fulfillment of fortune, the winning of a bargain to the victor, and among those ancient populations whose cultural psychology tended towards the cultivation of religious belief structures, what Spengler designated Magian culture forms, the completion of a discrete covenant with the creator.

European political order and ultimately the normative paradigm on international relations in the modern era in formal conceptual terms began and ended with the devastation of Germany.

Between the defenestration of Prague on May 13th, 1618, and the conclusion of the Treaties of Osnabrück and Münster on October 24th, 1648, a seemingly endless sectarian war, grindingly brutal and simultaneously tactically complex and technologically primitive, left virtually no Central European territory unscathed.